Spoke and Sole

Announcement: 00:04

Welcome to Spoke and Sole, a community built around two things that keep us moving, cycling and running. Whether you're chasing miles, hitting new routes, routes, or just out there for the love of it, you have found your crew. We're here to share stories, tips, and anything that keeps us motivated. So lace up, clip in, and let's get moving with your hosts.

Terrance: 00:30

Welcome to Spoke and Sole, home of the essential athlete. I'm Terrance. And today, we're gonna kick off the concept of how we came up with Spoke and Sole. So we're gonna get a bit into some history lessons and bring you into what it is that we're trying to do with this community. Sitting to my left is the man we call the captain, mister Fashionisto, Ant Sanders.

Terrance: 00:59

He goes by many names. Ant, welcome, man.

Anthony: 01:03

Thank you for having me, brother. I'm excited to be here.

Terrance: 01:06

Yeah. Ant is a true legend in his own mind. So Ant, officially, we started this journey as runners. Right? Yeah.

Terrance: 01:17

And it's funny because running was one of those things that I didn't have a true passion for in in the beginning. But what I wanna do is I wanna take everyone back to the beginning of that journey because we've known each other for much longer than we've been running together. But let's go back to We Run This Town. Let's talk about how that started, why that started, and what was your goal behind bringing all those individuals together in that group.

Anthony: 01:50

Well, I think it's it's a story similar to Spoke and Sole. You know, I think we you know, about a couple decades ago almost now, you know, we how it actually started was I got back into running because I started boxing

Terrance: 02:08

and I remember that. Who's that? Wasn't that place in Attleboro?

Anthony: 02:12

It was a place in Attleboro, Fight to Fitness. Shout out to Rich Rich Gendrous who used to be on the Contender as a matter of fact and you know I started sparring and you know I had to do the three rounds

Terrance: 02:30

That win was getting you.

Anthony: 02:31

And he was like you know you should run And I was like, all right. So I started running and then I started getting into it and then I wanted to run the races, but then once I started running the races, I didn't really see anyone who looked like me. And then we started to try to find running groups that were all encompassing and they really weren't. So at that point you know there were some other people that you know shout out to you know Dave Curry you know a couple other people who were involved and you know we decided we were gonna start our own club that was all inclusive and accepting of everyone you know regardless of their color, their race, their sexual orientation. So we were trying to just bring people together man you know which which ended up being you know, much larger than I ever thought it would would be.

Terrance: 03:18

Yeah. And that's funny because Dave apparently brings people together because, when I left high school, that was the last time I ran. And then, you know, life happens having kids. And it wasn't until I had Ayla where, you know, age catches up to you, but it was one of those things where she got to an age where she was moving a lot, man. She was doing all this stuff and it was tough keeping up with her.

Terrance: 03:47

And so I was like, I gotta do something. I gotta do something. So I started doing some little miles getting out there. Then Dave Curry, he hit me up one day.

Anthony: 03:56

Was like, Oh yeah, man, you should come run with the group. You should come run to with the group.

Terrance: 03:59

I'm like, Oh man, I don't know about that, man. I ain't trying to do all that stuff. I ain't trying to do all that stuff. And then I hit you I hit you guys up. You guys was doing a rundown at Blackstone, man.

Terrance: 04:12

And and that was I had I ran the furthest I had ever ran that day. I think it was five miles. Wow. I was like, oh, five miles. These these cats think of that now.

Terrance: 04:22

Five miles. It got to the point where we wouldn't get out of bed for anything less than 12:13. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, man. And that and that I got there.

Terrance: 04:32

It was you. It was Melissa. It was, oh, like, Angela. Angela. Angela beast.

Terrance: 04:39

Yeah, man. The people were doing their thing. Jolly Rob. Yeah. Yeah.

Terrance: 04:44

Yo. And so, I mean, that's what officially kicked off the actual run. And I remember back then, man, I remember the story that Scott told me when he first started, the first time he ran with you, when you guys were at Oh Wick and

Anthony: 05:01

my God.

Terrance: 05:04

He said, Yeah, you was pushing him. You was pushing him.

Anthony: 05:06

Yeah now you guys are always hazing me but that you know that's the beauty of the community that we've all created you know for us all you know Courtney I talking about that last week and how just to have you know a bunch of individuals that keep you accountable you know and that are gonna push you you know like we all know each other's strengths and weaknesses and capabilities and to be able to say you know like I can't play with you because you know what I can do and you know what I've done And we get out there, we could be like, Nah, I know this or I know that. And, you know, in an inspiring way too, not a derogatory way where, you know, people putting each other down, but like, Hey man, like, I know, you know, I know you could do more, you know? Yeah, we may be a little older, but, we know what your potential is.

Terrance: 05:49

That accountability is always there, man. That's funny. That's funny, Court.

Anthony: 05:55

The rest of our crew, man.

Terrance: 05:57

Yeah. I mean, the beauty part of We Run This Town. Well, first off, we used to roll deep. We used to run deep.

Anthony: 06:07

You just listen. I came across a photo, the photo of CVS. I don't don't remember what year it was, but it was a CVS, the team photo where there had to be about 27 of us. Yeah. And from the train station.

Terrance: 06:24

From the train station. Yeah. We used to roll deep.

Anthony: 06:26

And we, you know, we were rolling deep with the CVS. I remember we, you know, matter of fact, shout out to you. I remember, you know, talk when we go down memory lane at some point, I remember when, you know, I was telling you about things I wanted to do and hell, we was even out at them charity runs putting in work. I think it was the Gloria Gemma. It might have been when I got my PR for the five ks.

Anthony: 06:49

So you know it's the beauty of and we did great things too you know not only did we develop a community that was running We developed a community that was for the community because we were doing food drives. You know, we were doing coke drives, you know, like, you know, during the Christmas time, you know, we were, you know, we were, adopting, you know, families to help. Like we did some really great things that went beyond running. And I think that's the beauty of the community and what, you know, what hustling can ring for you. And I'm very proud of that, you know.

Anthony: 07:25

I mean the numbers may have dwindled over the years, but I think, you know, the essence of it and the spirit of it is something that I, you know, I don't think I haven't seen any other organization be able to replicate that.

Terrance: 07:39

Yeah. And before we switch over to how we got into the cycling piece, I wanted to touch on that because, you know, the relationships, that community, it was it was such a great feeling being a part of those. But when we talk about community and giving back, you know, there was adopting the family, the charity runs, you know, all those things, coat drives, all those things. And then a big part of that was giving back to the running community with the whole volunteering for all the races. I mean, we've we've we've we've have we have some stories from from volunteering at those races.

Terrance: 08:19

And I think one of the greatest joys is being able to be on the other side. Yes. To support and cheer on. Because that's the thing too. Particularly, at the running events, the amount of people who come out and support and cheer and volunteer, I mean, I think that's just phenomenal.

Terrance: 08:41

I think that's one of the things that has always kept me close to the running community even though I mean, again, from a size perspective, things did dwindle down a little bit. But that passion that people display, whether or not they're just whether or not they're just running or volunteering is crazy. So now, you start this running group. And there were, I mean, a lot of people out there Deep. Out there running deep.

Terrance: 09:17

Mean, if you remember, you know, the ladies would start doing their own

Anthony: 09:24

One thing. Yep.

Terrance: 09:25

Their own thing. Yeah. And we would still do those Sunday runs.

Anthony: 09:28

Sunday runs. Yeah.

Terrance: 09:29

But we would catch up. But then for one reason or another, you said running wasn't enough. So walk me through that journey that took you from runner to triathlete, getting in that water, and then picking up the the the whole cycling piece?

Anthony: 09:48

Alright. Well, first off, I wanna say shout out to to Kathy York because she's always on that fuck that swim shit, which is funny. But how I transitioned was and I don't really believe it was, like, more of enough, but I think as as athletes and specifically as runners, like, chase highs. You know? Whether we you know, we like, we chase highs and we chase challenges and they sometimes like intersect.

Anthony: 10:14

So Jolly Rob was I don't even know how he got into it, but he had done like a couple of triathlons and he kept trying to like like reel me in. Oh man, come on. Know, you should try it. I'm like, I'm not getting in the water. Like, you know, like I could bite, you know, like I would do the duathlon.

Anthony: 10:35

So finally I was like, you know what? I'm gonna try it. You know, I want I wanna try it because at least if nothing else, you know, I I had I always knew how to swim, but I wasn't the best swimmer. But I figured, you know, it'd be a good way to kinda try the whole endurance thing and take it to another level.

Terrance: 10:54

Yeah.

Anthony: 10:54

So for me that's what it was it was the challenge and it became addictive too. So you know I did one you know a shout out to Try Mom that was the first one that I did you know where and again got introduced to another community and you know I just dipped my feet into that and then I it just became addictive too because it was like you know how you know like everything else you know how much can you push? Yeah yeah. How much can you endure too so and I'm thankful for that too, because I think, and we'll talk about that in later episodes, but I think, you know, the things that happen sometimes you don't understand why they happen. And some of the things that you don't think you need at some point, you end up needing them later.

Anthony: 11:36

Yep. You know thinking back you know when I got into the triathlon world I didn't know I was gonna need it later on in life in the sense that they say that most most runners become bikers because their body breaks down. So I was able to by getting into that cross training section early as I transitioned into my older you know I guess midlife years I was able to balance it off and actually probably able to be able to extend my running life because of that.

Terrance: 12:10

Yeah. And so the it's funny you mentioned that. So the transition from the run to the ride for me came with, again, I was beating them streets up, man, from a running perspective. And it was one of those things where, you know, I was pushing myself. And as I pushed myself, you know, I was getting those results.

Terrance: 12:27

And I was like, push, push, push. And then going from not I hadn't ran in so long to pick it back up and to have it not just be a passion, but for it to be a release for stress and the day to day stuff. I started hitting that very, very hard. And the other part about that Well, not the other part. What I wasn't doing was from a physical perspective or from a workout perspective, I wasn't doing a whole bunch of cross training.

Terrance: 12:56

And I ended up having some issues with my back. And they said I couldn't run for a while and so because I couldn't run I said well let me see what this bike bike thing is is about. Actually and he's like oh yeah you should get a bike and I ended up getting a bike.

Anthony: 13:12

I needed you guys at that point too because that right at that point when you were doing that like when you came into that, that's when I started to pick up the intensity of what I was doing with the triathlons as far as the distance wise. So, and I think like right around that point in time, think I had, I went up from the sprints to the Olympic Triathlons and that's when like I needed to ride more. So that was like perfect timing because prior to that I had you know and Cort had mentioned that too because when we were running last week he was talking about how like prior to that I had I was riding but I was riding for like the distance and I wasn't riding for the performance piece that I would need to go up to move up and transition so that was perfect for me. That was perfect for me.

Terrance: 13:59

Yeah. So I, yeah, remember you was like, I'll get a bike. And then I went and looked at the bikes and I tell you what, looking at the bikes is what really got me into cycling because again, you go in there and it wasn't like the old Huffies. You know what I mean? They had these sleek machines and you look at them like, oh yeah, that's hot.

Terrance: 14:23

All these different color designs and all those other things. And what was crazy was, as I started to cycle, I started to actually enjoy that. And I think a big part of that was when we started running together, again, there's that brotherhood, there's that community. Some of that stuff transitioned over to cycling. A big a big reason for that was we were doing it together.

Terrance: 14:49

Yes. And it was one of those things where, alright, well, you know, we might not be running, but we're cycling, and we're still actually doing it together.

Anthony: 14:56

And so

Terrance: 14:57

for me, it was it was natural from the perspective of it's just as Yes. It's just like it was when we were actually running.

Anthony: 15:07

Yes. It was it was the same approach. And and and I'll say also, you hit that right on the head. You know, it was almost like like when we were kids you know when you would you would grow up and then you would do certain things and you do it with your friends and that's how you got it you know you got it and you you know that was your bonding moment and it was exactly that and I'll say this and I'm saying it officially like you got us all into like the trouble with the bikes too because like right at that point I mean and you took it to another level you know and again us all helping each other to where you know like that and I'll say that that's been your forte for us which I've appreciated that like making sure like in that biking space that you know that we would learn about you know maintaining your bike you know about the performance pieces of that. I you know I've always appreciated that you know because that's been something that you know transitioning over from running to cycling isn't always necessarily an athletic thing sometimes it's about you know it's about the machine but like you always say the person that drives the machine but making sure that the machine is intact and that you know you care for it and your tires you know and even your little cloth that you have and you're like oh you gotta clean your bike off and you know and all that.

Anthony: 16:26

So that has been you know and I've appreciated that because and I've appreciated you know again with all of that you know it's always been a community thing where you know, we've all, know, we've all learned from, and again, little things that you may not take into account, like, I remember it was one year, like when we were riding when it was cold, you know, we went with the toe covers, you know, moving with the toe covers, and then, you know, there was at one point in a time we were riding in the summertime and, you know, we never wore like the sun sleeves. So that was something where we had learned about that, you know, and then even down to the technology piece where, and I was talking to you about this prior to us even recording about even the technology piece with the radars for the, you know, the car backs and those type of things. So I've appreciated that. I think that's great that we, you know, we've all tried to teach each other and stay as a community and grow. I think that that's exceptional.

Anthony: 17:17

That's one of the things I think that kind of for me keeps me going in addition to you know whatever my own self passion is but to know like one more motherfucking tea, one more my motherfucking tea is gonna be what it is you know and how that's transitioned from you know and it's funny about how the whole three sixty of it goes. Like we all have, and that's the beauty. And I know you'll talk about that later, but that's the beauty of the community where, you know, we have these interchangeable pieces where everyone fits in and and does their own little role to make sure that it stays connected and it stays complete and and that's beautiful, you know, that's beautiful.

Terrance: 17:55

It's it's funny you mentioned that. So that that stuff when it comes to the bike, really, it's I mean, at the end of the day, you know, it's a bit of when it comes to, you know, those bike I got a problem when it comes to the bikes, but at the same time, safety is a big part

Anthony: 18:09

of that.

Terrance: 18:10

You know? Yes. I did an an audio episode on safety for both, you know, running and cycling when you're out there on on the road. But those checks are important. I mean, when you go from getting on your bike and riding five miles to where you're doing thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, 70 a century, you know what I mean?

Terrance: 18:37

You need to make sure that before you go out there, you're doing those checks and making sure that you ain't gonna break down. If you you remember there was a particular ride and we weren't riding with them, but, you know, we came across this group. Yeah. And, you know, Homeboys chain broke.

Anthony: 18:55

No. I got a funnier story than that. Well, well, I got a funny story than that. Do you remember and you talk about safety check and and you I think you had clown me about that. We were riding, I think it was in Seaconk and we're riding up the hill.

Anthony: 19:11

We may have probably only been like two miles out and I think I'm a little bit ahead and I just fall boom. And you're like what happened? We're trying to figure out what happened.

Terrance: 19:24

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

Terrance: 19:27

Yeah.

Anthony: 19:27

And I'm like, I don't know what happened. And then you're like, oh, you know, because and because you are the tech guy that checks all this stuff. And you're like, the wheel came off and was sitting there thinking and I'm like, Tee, I'm like, I didn't check my bike. I'm like, and I said, I said, I remember my daughter was in there playing with the, know, playing with it, but I don't normally check it because I check it, you know, the night before and I leave it and I just go and do what I

Terrance: 19:54

gotta do.

Anthony: 19:55

That is, you know, that's a great story about, you know, about being ready, you know, and about making sure that you check your safety with that. And I think not from a safety perspective, but also, you know, about being prepared too. Another personal story I remember, and I'm still mad at this. I think it may have been the last century we did when when I got caught out there. And then we started carrying I think my my tire and my tube went and I didn't have an extra tire.

Anthony: 20:29

And I think that was after that when we started doing the centuries that I got two spare tires and it's funny because now whenever we go over 50, I make sure that I have that tire my safety bag. So, you know, you're absolutely right about that. And also just being able, not just from a safety perspective, but also just from a performance perspective too, you know, because if you have those things and those things are in check, it makes the hustle easier, you know, with that, with all the gear, whether that be your running shoes, whether that be, you know, your bike equipment. And I know it's only spoke and sold, but even from a triathlon perspective with having the right equipment in terms of like, don't swim without a wetsuit. So all those things.

Terrance: 21:15

Yeah. And you know what? The thing with that is the community helps with that, right? Because when you first get into these, you might not know all of that stuff. What's the right equipment?

Terrance: 21:26

How you care for them and things like that. But I know one of the first things you used to do when you got a new pair of shoes, you spray them. And you was all about spraying them, protecting your investment.

Anthony: 21:36

Still spray. Yeah. I still and it's so it's so funny that my son does it now. He brings me his shoes. Like like, you're still doing this?

Anthony: 21:45

Like, yeah, dad, gotta spray them. And I'm like, yeah. You know? And and that's important too just because, you know, we know what we go into and, you know, like we, you know, nothing stops to run, you know, that was one of the things that we had. You know, one of those things before we ended up running into the shields, shout out to Nike, can we get an endorsement Nike?

Anthony: 22:03

But prior to that, prior to coming into the shields, you know, we ran in everything. So, you know, it wasn't just to protect, you know, them staying in shape, but it was a lot some of those repellents would would repel water. So it would be good when, you know, like when we ran and some, you know, we ran into thunderstorms, whatever else and getting

Terrance: 22:25

caught None stops to run.

Anthony: 22:26

So that was good to be able to have that equipment, the right equipment so that, you know, and I think you said it, and I don't know if you ever remember saying it, but I recall you at one point saying, if you know, you got your equipment right, you got no excuse not to get out there and do what you gotta do.

Terrance: 22:38

Yeah. And the thing with that is, so all of that comes back to know what started that for me? The Yaktrax. Because you think about it, right? Yes.

Terrance: 22:50

The Yaktrax, when it's out there and when you're out there and snow's on the ground, a little bit of ice, you don't wanna go out there and break your neck. You know what I mean? You can do certain techniques to make sure that, you know, you don't fall and hurt yourself, but it all comes down to this. If you got the right equipment, then you can get out there and get it. And it started with the running.

Terrance: 23:15

And then when the cycling came around, it just carried over to the actual cycling. Now with the cycling pieces, it's a bit more because you gotta be concerned with a little more. Whereas running, I mean, you got your shoes, you got your layers, you know what I mean? Depending on what the road is like, you got your yak tracks, you got your hydration, you know.

Anthony: 23:36

Cycling's much more intricate. It is. Yeah. Like it's much more intricate, you know? And again, even shout out to all, you know, to to my crew, you know, especially you, you know, like I think, you know, you and and I said it earlier, I'll say it again, you know, like you can get away with a lot more in athleticism and running, but when you get to cycling, you know and and I'm not you know shaming anyone, but you know you see guys out there that are some big boys out there that can push them pedals you know and and they they don't look like they like they're kind of the athletic type you know, but it's all you know it's all in the strategy and knowing the machine and and you know and and your mind frame with it too.

Anthony: 24:16

So it's it's it's it's definitely it's definitely a challenging sport. You know, I love the sport. Know, I I've I've I've come to love it more as I've gotten older and as we've gotten more into it because you know I learned to appreciate like what it can do for your body you know and how they can you said it earlier how they could they help each other out you know. We were talking before we got on the show and I I mean, I rode yesterday and I I ran, I I did a double tap, you'd be proud of me. Ran in the morning and then it was so nice.

Anthony: 24:50

I rode in the afternoon, but the riding felt exceptionally well because of some of the things, you know, that that, you know, we've all talked about and it like, we gotten a chance to incorporate, like, put me on the Zwift. You know, I I was heavy into Zwift and being able to get out there and, like, kinda see the return on investment. You know, again, I'm not am I gonna run any races? Hell no. But to be able to see, you know, those little, you know, the the builds and the gains and performance is something that's you know, again, it's what we chase.

Terrance: 25:22

Yeah. Yeah.

Anthony: 25:22

It's what we chase.

Terrance: 25:24

Yeah. And and in regards to what we chase too, a big part of that is, you know, we're we're chasing mental release. Right? So when we talk about whether it's running or cycling and and this whole Spoke and Sole thing, a big part of us wanting to do this was to make sure that from an enthusiast perspective, you know, we build a place that is accepting of of everyone. Right?

Anthony: 25:50

Yes.

Terrance: 25:50

And whether it be running a five k, half marathon, marathon, you're running your own race. Same thing with the with with the bike. Right? The bike is more intricate, but at the same time, you know, too many times people look at someone and they judge a book by the cover. And that's one of the things that we wanted to try to actually avoid.

Terrance: 26:18

But again, it all comes down to the community, us being there for each other, us helping each other out, us holding each other accountable. And those stories, man, I mean, that's another big part of this, being able to actually create more stories

Anthony: 26:38

that And memories.

Terrance: 26:39

Yeah. Stories and memories.

Anthony: 26:40

Stories and memories. And and again, like, got me thinking right now, like, even, with the cycling, with the with the doctor Peppa, the doctor Peppa hits, you know, so like, and again, as you learn and you go for and I think one of the things I want to circle back to is like you said, is acceptance. You know, think, you know, in this world of division that we have and a lot of different things, I think the one unifying thing has been the sport, you know, to be able to say, you know and especially since you know we're not, know we're middle aged athletes compared to what we were ten, fifteen years ago so to be able to mature into the sport and to be able to say you know even with those people that are coming in that may be a little bit younger to kind of get them to where it's, you know, it's a great feat to just say, Hey, you ran one mile. Yep. Or you ran a half mile.

Anthony: 27:34

You know all those individuals are doing more than most people that are just sitting on the couch you know given their scenario and their opinion on what someone else is doing and I and again I think that's that's what I love about what we you know what we're trying to build and where we're going because I know you know, for a time, and I'm not gonna talk about the running piece, because I and I will say runners are much more nicer than cyclists. Cyclists are snobs.

Terrance: 28:02

So, you know, I've been thinking about that too. Right? And, you know, here's what I will say. Sometimes you only know the people who are around you. Yes.

Terrance: 28:16

Okay. And that's that that goes into also why, you know, we're trying to build this community.

Anthony: 28:23

Yep.

Terrance: 28:26

In my experience so far, most runners who I come in contact with have been phenomenal. And when I say phenomenal, what I mean, I'm not talking about from a, excuse me, from a performance perspective, but I'm talking about from a social perspective, from an interactive perspective, from a community perspective, from a volunteer perspective. They have been phenomenal. And I have come across some people in the cycling world who have been looking for some people to be phenomenal. And what I mean by that is I've experienced certain situations where a cyclist will be judged based on the type of gear.

Terrance: 29:17

Bike. Whether it be bike, whether it be Yeah, the attire, the exactly. Gloves. And that has turned some people off. I've also been a part of certain situations.

Terrance: 29:31

Well, let me

Anthony: 29:31

say

Terrance: 29:31

this. Well, I'll get to it. I've also been a part of some situations where someone new has shown up to a group ride and the expectation was that they'd be taken care of. It'd be a no drop ride and that stuff not happen. On the flip side, I will also say this, and this is why I say sometimes the people you know.

Terrance: 29:51

I have been a part of some group rides that have been phenomenal where the whether it be the store or the group or whoever puts on the actual ride, sticks to what they say they were actually going to do. So I think there are two sides of the coin. Unfortunately, of the situations that I've been in have been towards the negative. But again, that's why we're here to try to build this community so individuals who are looking to get into, I'm gonna say the sport, the activity, the community can find a place where they're gonna be accepted regardless of whether or not they have a $300 bike or a $10,000 bike.

Anthony: 30:43

Yep. I agree. I agree because I think at the end of the day, it's about the fitness piece and it's about the health aspect of it that's most important and they're gonna gain from that. And I agree and I'm excited about that and I think, you know, we got a chance to do that at the end of last year or it started to heighten a little more. We were kind of pulling in, you know, people and they wanted to be a part of it because at the end of the day, you know, that's what it's about.

Anthony: 31:09

It's about community. I think, you know, tell people all the time, you know, yes I could ride like I rode yesterday, I ran yesterday and that's all fine. I'm not saying there's anything away from that but the community and the connection with all you have made it so much more enriching than it would be, you know, and again, even with the memories, and I know I think we're gonna talk about, you know, at some point memories, but, like I got tons of memories with you all, you know?

Terrance: 31:35

Yeah. Good. I remember the first time I remember the first time, it's funny. I remember the first time I fell on my bike. I remember the first time I fell on my bike when we were together.

Terrance: 31:47

It's crazy. And the funny thing about that is the first time I fell on a bike when we were together, we were actually stopped at

Anthony: 31:52

a light. Stopped at a light. Yeah. And even that too, and even again, think the community also, when you're in a community setting, it teaches you how to not take yourself serious.

Terrance: 32:03

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Anthony: 32:04

You know, like I I remember a couple, you know, and and we're horrible for it, but you know, when people have crashed.

Terrance: 32:10

Oh, yeah.

Anthony: 32:11

And we made sure they're okay, you know, but again, it was there was a fun and again, it's a story for it's a connection to it. And, you know, but again, I think at the end of the day, you know, and and I'm probably I'm definitely aging myself, but I don't I don't know if you remember that book that they used to have us read back in the day. It was called People Need People. And

Terrance: 32:32

I don't think I know about that one.

Anthony: 32:33

I want you to Google that. People Need People. It was a book that they used. I think it was in middle school. And that was like one of the collections of books I think they had for social studies, if I'm not mistaken.

Anthony: 32:44

But I always think about that as I think about like people need people and it's not just, you know, the connections you make are not just about the sport, you know, it's about life. It's about, you know, we make connections, and yes, we ride, we run and all of that, but you know, we've had, we've been able to build and develop relationships outside of that, that deal with life and deal with the things that you have to go through through life that, know, sport has been able to bring us that connection to help us cope with that. That's amazing, you know, and again, I think, again, it just comes back to people need people, man, you know? And it's it's it's kinda like a three sixty thing that just keeps feeding and feeding and feeding and feeding off of each other, which, you know, you know, humans aren't meant to be alone, man.

Terrance: 33:27

Yeah. So I haven't heard of that book, but I mean, think that's a great segue through, excuse me, to the fact that this is all about building relationships. This is all about being able to find a home for those individuals who have been looking for a place, whether it's running or cycling, to say, Hey, listen, I can go there. And when I go there, there are a couple of things that I know I'm gonna get. One, you're gonna laugh.

Terrance: 33:52

You're gonna laugh. Particularly, listen, particularly with this group of individuals, you're gonna laugh, you're gonna be accepted, and you're going to find that community. Because again, like you said, we have so many relationships that we have built that have transcended the sport of running and cycling. And there there are people who you can call on, people who you know that if you need anything, they'll be there for you. And at the same time, you know, they're gonna people who there are people who are going to make you laugh Yes.

Terrance: 34:27

When not only you expect it, but when you least expect And I think that's what the idea behind all of this is about.

Anthony: 34:35

Yes. And when you need it. And when you need it.

Terrance: 34:38

Yes.

Anthony: 34:38

You know, we've all gone through, you know, different, I wanna say challenges

Terrance: 34:45

Yeah.

Anthony: 34:45

In our lives where, you know, and I know and I'll say for me personally you know where you know I've had you know things that I had to deal with in my life and to be able to show up and if nothing else I could get a laugh

Terrance: 35:01

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Anthony: 35:03

Yeah. In addition to the support. Yep. You know? And I think that's, you know, that's what we're trying to build.

Anthony: 35:07

We're trying to build in a safe space. A safe space where you can come and you don't have to feel like, you know, you need to be an expert. You know, just show up, you know, you show up, you know, as you know, and I think that's one of the things I think we've done a great job is to to say, just show up and try your best and have fun. Yeah. You know, because because, you know, with the sports as well, you know, sometimes and we know, and I hope we revisit that at some other thing, but, know, we know how you can put in so much work that it becomes a job and you lose the fun and joy of it.

Anthony: 35:42

And I think that's something that, you know, we're we're trying to, you know, we're trying to create. So and I'm excited for

Terrance: 35:48

it. Yeah. For it. I'll I'll sum this up with two phrases. One that we use on the on the running side, and I'm sure you'll remember this one, and one that we use on on the cycling side.

Terrance: 36:01

I'll start with the cycling side first. Just ride. Yeah. Just ride. Your ride, your journey is your journey.

Terrance: 36:12

Don't compare yourself to someone else. Again, we're talking about building a community here. And on the running side, run the mile you're in.

Anthony: 36:20

You're absolutely right.

Terrance: 36:21

Run the mile you're in. Don't think about, you know, the person who may go past you. Don't think about the person who might be faster than you. Don't think about the person who's a lot more miles than you. Run the mile you're in.

Terrance: 36:36

You are your own competition. And that's what I envision this whole community being about. What's good, everyone? This is Terrance from Spoke and Sole. We're just getting things moving.

Terrance: 36:51

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